Katrina
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Post by Katrina on Feb 23, 2005 14:27:05 GMT
I know you guys have something going on with kids with babies. Well here is a branch of that:
My opinion on this is if you are old enough to have sex, than you should be old enough to have sex with protection. If you cant obey that than you surely must feel that you are mature enough to handle a child. I do not think Abortion is fair, because it is just murder. If you are not old enough, responsible enough to have a child its simple...no matter how much you love the person..DONT HAVE SEX...but to risk another beings life because you didnt use protection? That seems like something only a ceral killer would do.
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Post by link on Feb 23, 2005 16:26:58 GMT
well here a surggestion they should just have the baby and then give the baby to a child protection group and not just dumping the baby in a bush like i have heard some cruel pricks do
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Katrina
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Post by Katrina on Feb 23, 2005 16:37:15 GMT
I like that Idea as well, thats a good one.
But on the same note, what if your parents force you to abort the child, there has to be some place for you to go for like nine months until then. Because even though you are like still a kid and all, if your the one with child, you should be the one to make the final choice without being forced. I suppose it is a factor of things.....
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Post by Balthazarx on Feb 24, 2005 16:01:02 GMT
i think evry mother should have the right to abort their child if so a mother a young age does not wanr her child then she should be able ti get rid of it
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Katrina
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Post by Katrina on Feb 24, 2005 16:24:04 GMT
So a living being loses its life because the mother was errisponsible enough to get knocked up at some party? I think that isnt fair, its just telling young girls that there is a way to not have a kid if you dont have unprotected sex.
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Post by Wrinkley Ninja on Feb 24, 2005 19:00:11 GMT
Meh, i totally agree. Abortion is wrong and pethetic, if your gonna have sex you gotta wear protection, if you don't your either stupid, or your looking forward to getting a baby, which is cool. Abortion... i hate that word. Forcing to kill a baby is like killing your spirit, well it would be if the girl wanted to keep it but was forced to abortion it by her mother...
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Post by link on Feb 24, 2005 19:07:07 GMT
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Post by Seifer on Feb 24, 2005 23:06:46 GMT
i know what you mean. well put it this way do you have the right to go out and kill like your best mate or something because they like annoy you? no you dont have the right to SO what gives you the right to kill an innocent child which you created which hasnt caused a SIN ?
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Post by Rikku. RIP. on Feb 25, 2005 0:12:08 GMT
It mostly depends on the situation, but I dislike abortion, 'cause it's killing a child, YOUR child, a human being! That's just wrong.... And you shouldn't have had unprotected sex if you didn't want a baby!
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Post by Seifer on Feb 25, 2005 11:40:59 GMT
It mostly depends on the situation, but I dislike abortion, 'cause it's killing a child, YOUR child, a human being! That's just wrong.... And you shouldn't have had unprotected sex if you didn't want a baby! so you were just saying. Situation , it does matter on the situation because say you got raped what would you do? have the child of someone who you dont know and which was done out of your will or abort it?. This is a tough question i reckon for all pregnant women in this situation. have any of you looked at the religious side of abortion?
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Post by link on Feb 25, 2005 12:42:55 GMT
nope if they had a raped up baby they should have him/her and and put him/her to a child support agencies knowing the fact she has saved a life like many kill
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Post by Seifer on Feb 25, 2005 13:13:52 GMT
Yea i know what you mean but the thing is youir not a girl so yo wouldnt know how it would feel i want a girls opinion on this question. but you would put it in a Orphanage not a child support group.
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Post by Rikku. RIP. on Feb 25, 2005 23:46:24 GMT
I think Link stole my answer, and I AM a girl...so hah! XD I think that if you got raped and had a child then you should still give birth to it and just put that child up for adoption, I mean, either way it's a life you're taking if you chose abortion.
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Post by Seifer on Feb 26, 2005 0:27:45 GMT
Yeah i can see where you like comming from cause at least give birth to it so your not killing it and if you can supposrt it keep the baby if not give it up for adoption or put it in an Orphanage.
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Post by Tslenia on Feb 26, 2005 1:04:35 GMT
Life isn't so simple, and in some cases...it is better not to have the baby than to have it, and the poor thing spends it life in pain or not being wanted. Not all children in the Orphenage gets pick to go to a good home you know, and if there are too many children in Orphenages what do you think happens to them when they have no place to go?
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Post by Rikku. RIP. on Feb 26, 2005 1:10:19 GMT
Life isn't so simple, and in some cases...it is better not to have the baby than to have it, and the poor thing spends it life in pain or not being wanted. Not all children in the Orphenage gets pick to go to a good home you know, and if there are too many children in Orphenages what do you think happens to them when they have no place to go? But there is a chance that the child gets adopted and gets a new family and lives happily or at least semi-happily, it's better to just let the child have that chance at a good life than just take that life away completely.
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Katrina
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Post by Katrina on Feb 26, 2005 6:58:44 GMT
Both are equally good points. And both have their rights to voice them in that way. No matter what there will always be welfare children, no matter what they will grow up that way. To have an adoption service is only but a tiny piece of this pie. And living in an orphanage is better than living in a cardboard box.
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Post by Tslenia on Feb 26, 2005 15:26:18 GMT
It's not just that, but in some cases where the parent deeply abuse the child like when one sticks their child hand in a pot of boil water, or use scissors to play tick, tack, toe, on a child's back, it makes one say that child would be better off not even being born. Some people are like that you know, and adoption can sometimes put children in that situation as well, because in such a case one is counting on the kindness of strangers. Then the fact is if there was never any abortion, and every child born was either put up for adoption or worst keep by parents whom don't even want the child...you would see more and more incidents like this. Because to be frank, how many us volunteer to be a big brother or sister to someone in your community, then you get a idea of how many children are actually adopted. It takes a lot to accept someone whom is not of your blood.
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Post by link on Feb 26, 2005 15:33:58 GMT
your frank..i thought you were tslenia ;D back to topic right i think its cruel if a kids been put into a situation like that but now they are targetting families who beat their kids up well they already have the if you smack you kid in public you will be punished law out and its only a matter of time befor they can stop abbuse to kids but it is cruel on kids that are getting it right now and future come but i still belive abortion is to bad of a choice to do
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Post by Aegisknight on May 6, 2006 0:24:34 GMT
Well, the only people we can truly effect on this subject are ourselves, and our children......you can tell someone all you want NOT to have an abortion, but....for every abortion you could possibly prevent, 20 more developing fetuses are extinguished at the same time.... Bleak as it may be, I really believe that we should still do all we can, with the resources we have, within the reach we may extend our will..... If you believe Abortion is wrong, and truly want that possible child to live, then YOU yourself must do everything you can, and suggest everything you can, to prevent it from dying........even so far as suggesting that YOU adopt the child! After all, that's better than playing russian roulette by sending the kid to an orphenage..... That's my stance.........a kid who was once recommended aborted by his mother's doctor.
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Post by segadragon on Jun 15, 2006 0:48:29 GMT
I think it's baby murder. The only reason for an abortion would be because of a pregnancy due to rape, I think.
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Post by Drowno™ on Jun 16, 2006 10:30:56 GMT
personally, if i became pregnant, i would most likely have an abortion, for many reasons such as i need to continue my education without any fall backs,
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Post by Drowno™ on Jun 16, 2006 10:31:36 GMT
I think it's baby murder. The only reason for an abortion would be because of a pregnancy due to rape, I think. i agree with that, rape is terrible,
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Post by segadragon on Jun 16, 2006 16:00:59 GMT
If you get pregnant and want an abortion, you should have thought "Protection" when you forgot to keep your legs closed. If a woman is "giving it out" to everyone, it's her responsibility to use protection or at least use the morning-after pill. It's not the baby's fault that she got pregnant, so she has no right to kill it.
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Post by Drowno™ on Jun 16, 2006 16:51:26 GMT
If you get pregnant and want an abortion, you should have thought "Protection" when you forgot to keep your legs closed. If a woman is "giving it out" to everyone, it's her responsibility to use protection or at least use the morning-after pill. It's not the baby's fault that she got pregnant, so she has no right to kill it. true true, so yeh, my overall view, abortion if necessary, like its life dependant, or raped and not wanted
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Post by Aegisknight on Jun 28, 2006 20:26:12 GMT
raped or not, don't let the kid suffer on account of his [or her] father
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